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Higgins and Miggins Try to Make Kittens

December 2nd 2008 21:00



I thought this was impossible until I saw it with my own eyes. My friend Brett, who has two desexed cats would certainly say it was impossible. So why were Higgins and Miggins, my ex-neighbour’s desexed cats, trying to get it on one night?

My ex-neighbour had told me about their urges. I thought given her cats had been desexed that they had no urges. But her recounts of their previous attempts to create kittens were certainly plausible; after all, if desexed humans can still get it on, why not cats?


Like some animal owners, my ex-neighbour also said she had waited too long to desex Miggins; by the time she had him operated on Miggins was already a father. She did not discover this until many months later when an old neighbour of hers told her Miggins was the father of her cat’s litter. At work, a colleague told me she had only recently gotten her male cat desexed – after he started spraying urine in the house. As for Brett, his cats were already desexed when he adopted them from the Cat Protection Society.

But back to my old neighbour and her cats. From a logical standpoint, I wasn’t sure whether to believe her or not when she talked about her cats’ urges. But then came the night Miggins mounted Higgins and grabbed him by the scruff with his teeth before rubbing himself over his brother. Higgins let out a huge miaow and ran off. I asked my neighbour what had just happened and she said Miggins was trying to mate.


So does anyone know if Miggins is an isolated case? Brett says his cats still haven’t gotten it on, nor do they show any interest in doing so.
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Comment by Kleonaptra

December 2nd 2008 23:38
( I think I remember you posting something along these lines once before..)

But he's not isolated. I very recently found out, that desexing by vasectomy, (which has become very popular) is next to useless. They still act like tomcats, and the tubes can heal up! My boys had the vasectomy 4 years ago, and still behave like boy cats...Spray everywhere....and I was told its likely the tubes have healed and they are once again toms. Because they have never bred a girl cat, they arent sure about the actual mating process, but that doesnt stop them rolling around like a cat porno movie just doing whatever feels good....And both can still ejaculate. In my recent research I found out that vasectomied boy cats are used on breeding females when they dont want them to get pregnant, as the female cat experiences pain in her ovaries (like pressure) and she needs the barbs in the boy cats penis to actually stab her insides on ejaculation to force her ovulation. Man, cat breeding is brutal!

The male kitten we sent to CPS actually got castrated, where the balls are taken off, so his owner wont have any of these worries. It was CPS that told me its usually male vets that talk owners into the vasectomy...Surprise surprise!

Comment by Queenie

December 3rd 2008 00:20
Ah ha! I'm not sure what operation Higgins and Miggins had but it sounds like a vasectomy as I remember my neighbour saying Miggins still ejaculates. As for Brett's cats, I've noticed their testes are really small. So does that mean they were castrated?

Comment by Kleonaptra

December 3rd 2008 00:50
Hmm, castration quite literally means removal of the testicles, so if they have them at all - even very small - then its not technically castration. Thats confusing though, as CPS is who I was dealing with recently, and if thats where Brett got them, it should have been castration. They told me they always choose that option...But they do get help from a lot of vet centres so maybe Butterscotch and Ginger Snap saw a sympathetic male vet?

Okay, Im LMAO.....But you may need to get a closer look! They might actually have no testes and what you have seen is tufts of fur....But if there are balls in there, and they are very small, Id say the vasectomy was done incredibly well. How old are they? It may simply be immature testes, that wont grow bigger if the operation was done well.

Our Rowdy holds his tail high all the time, displaying them very proudly like tomcats do, and Sampson doesnt display them, but if you rub his belly (very nice, wide white belly indeed) he will actually push your hand down! Its quite bad when he gets excited.

Comment by Queenie

December 3rd 2008 05:17
Hi Kleonaptra

Brett's babies are almost two years old. But they were owned by someone else before they arrived at the CPS so maybe they had been desexed beforehand. I've seen tomcats and Butterscotch and Gingersnap's testes are a lot smaller. I'll have to ask Brett if he knows.

Comment by Kleonaptra

December 3rd 2008 20:04
Ah, that explains it - they are only babies! At 2 years old the testes wont be fully developed if they arent being used. My boys are big panthers of 5 years old, I was told by that age the tubes are usually healed up. At 2 they are probably still cut.

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